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Hi everyone. I was planning to buy an item from the UK (pro seller) worth around 400 pounds, so subject to import duties. But if I try to add it to my cart, eBay only calculates shipping costs and doesn’t show me “import fees” like it did with other purchases from the UK. Does anyone know why? Maybe because it’s a pro seller and not a private individual? Thanks for the help
19 comments
nebula09
·2 years agoThanks so much to everyone for your interest and help. I'll take what you write to heart and try to make a purchase in the UK. The total including VAT was around €155.00; I just hope the customs duties (if applied) do not exceed €30.00 (otherwise it loses the advantage of turning to a market - in my case collectibles - different from the Italian one)
orningr_0
·2 years agoHi, sorry for the question, can I ask how it ended? I also need to buy a product shipped from the United Kingdom and I only find contradictory information about
nebula09
·2 years agoHello! Nice to be part of this community.
I’d like to buy an item from the UK, value 95 pounds. In the payment summary, in addition to the item and shipping, VAT is applied in the calculation. I’ve been trying all day to find out whether there’s a risk of customs duties when the package arrives, since, in the note at the end of the summary, it says “VAT added to prices based on the delivery address. No additional customs charges will be applied”.
The seller’s invoice is 110 pounds (roughly €128.00) while my payment including VAT comes to about 134 pounds (about €155.00).
My question is: will the amount that counts be the seller’s invoice (£110) or the eBay summary issued to me including VAT (£134). Because in the first case it falls below €150.00 and is not subject to duties, in the second it is.
Thanks to anyone who can help me.
heavenwelkin
·2 years agoGood evening nebula09
The answer is IT DEPENDS.
Because with customs, you can never be sure of anything.
If you have already paid VAT on the item and if the seller has attached and correctly stated in the declaration that you have already paid VAT, then you should be fine as it is.
You should receive the item with no additional costs.
If instead the seller in the declaration omitted that you had already paid the 22% VAT to eBay, you will be charged, in addition to the VAT (paid twice), the collection fees, which vary from courier to courier, and probably also other additional customs charges.
If you are asked for further costs when the package is delivered, make sure not to refuse the item and have them leave you some form of proof of payment.
Do not pay the courier in cash if they do not leave you any invoice/receipt, because otherwise you will not be able to prove that you received and paid a double charge.
With proof of the double charge in hand, contact eBay support, which will provide assistance on the procedure for reversing the double charge.
Kind regards.
nebula09
·2 years agoThank you very much for the help! In my specific case I found a seller of rare kindness, who didn’t brush me off with a simple “don’t purchase” but rather got to work, even contacting eBay’s helpline, but without finding a solution. The problem is that he told me his invoice was made up solely of item + shipping, without VAT being shown. Why doesn’t eBay issue the seller the document to attach to the package with the same line items as my payment summary?
That makes it really too difficult to make predictions, and this thing is quite discouraging for the user.
Anyway, thanks again for replying to me.
heavenwelkin
·2 years agoHonestly I don’t know how ebay UK works from the seller console point of view.
As an Italian seller who ships to the UK or other non-EU countries, I always receive the “invoice” or rather an order summary visible by going to the purchased item and clicking on “order details”.
Inside it shows the entry related to the costs / import fees that the buyer has paid.
I simply print this order summary and state in the customs declaration that the buyer has already paid the VAT on ebay.
Usually this method is quite safe.
Non-EU buyers receive the items without extra import costs.
Try asking the seller if they can somehow provide proof that you have paid the VAT, and if so tell them to attach it along with the customs documentation and write a note saying that the buyer has already paid the import costs directly to ebay.
Kind regards.
marioelegio
·2 years agoHonestly, I often buy in the UK and I was never asked to pay VAT a second time.
eBay issues the buyer the tax document with the VAT paid. You can see it here too:
How VAT is shown at checkout
You will see VAT included in the order total at checkout. In addition, the tax invoice will be available and downloadable from the Order details page in your Purchase history.
If VAT is asked for a second time:
Double VAT charge
If you were charged VAT a second time by the courier upon delivery of your items, contact eBay using the link below and provide proof of the double VAT charge. The VAT charged by eBay on the initial transaction can then be refunded.
Request a VAT refund
To request a VAT refund on a completed order, sign in and upload proof of the overpayment.
hi
mario
do759944
·5 months agohi! I bought
a camera for €150 from the UK and I was charged €20 for shipping. When the courier called me, he told me I had to pay €58 in customs duties. The seller won’t have any of it and in fact it doesn’t say anywhere that VAT was already charged or duties of about XX. Now on a purchase of €150 + €20 shipping, I think I should know that there are another €60 in duties to pay!
heavenwelkin
·5 months agoThat said, you have to know that importing an item located outside Europe involves import costs.
If in doubt, you can also send the seller an email to ask for information before buying.
Or you can ask on the eBay forum before buying.
Or you can do a search on the internet to look into the matter further.
It seems more than NORMAL to me that the seller doesn't want to know anything about import costs.
But now you know that buying from non-EU sellers involves import costs that can be paid directly to eBay or upon receipt of the parcel.
Kind regards.
marioelegio
·2 years agoIf due, duties apply first (on the total of the item and shipping costs) and then VAT, so much so that VAT must also be calculated on the duties.
https://www.ionos.it/startupguide/gestione/dazi-doganali/#:~:text=Per%20quanto%20riguarda%20l'Iva,%C3%A8%20quello%20solito%20del%2022%25.
hi
mario
heavenwelkin
·3 years agoGood evening
As a reference, on eBay we have this link with the title: Paying taxes on eBay purchases
https://www.ebay.it/help/buying/paying-items/pagare-le-imposte-sugli-acquisti-ebay?id=4771
I quote:
Items shipped to the EU from countries or sellers outside the EU
If the item is shipped from a country outside the EU, the recipient may have to pay VAT and customs duties. These amounts will be collected by eBay or the courier on behalf of the relevant customs/tax authorities.
As of July 1, 2021, the VAT exemption for imported goods valued below EUR 22 is no longer in place, and eBay is required to collect VAT on certain orders delivered to EU addresses:
(my personal note: in my opinion this point is not VERY CLEAR because it seems to apply only to France or Monaco when then it says: to EU addresses)
In cases where eBay is not responsible for collecting VAT, the amount of VAT and customs duties will be determined upon arrival of the goods in the destination country. Therefore, buyers may have to pay additional charges not included in the total price shown at checkout, such as VAT, customs duties and an import handling fee charged by the courier.
Goods shipped to the UK from abroad
As of January 1, 2021, the VAT exemption for imported goods valued below GBP 15 has been abolished.
However, eBay is required to collect VAT on certain orders delivered to UK addresses:
VAT and customs duties are also likely to apply to higher-value items. However, VAT on purchases valued above GBP 135 will be paid directly to the UK customs authorities by the buyer.
Best regards.
sika700
·3 years agoHello,
this happens because that seller does not participate in the GSP program (International Shipping Program), which can only be used by the UK and the USA.
In theory, purchases on eBay should only be increased by VAT; if that’s not the case, keep in mind that, in addition to the duties indicated by the previous commenter, there is also the 22% increase for Italian VAT, which of course must be paid upon delivery.
Kind regards.
deejaynick
·3 years agoExactly, but besides VAT, since the amount is over 150 euros, you also have to factor in customs duty (which is roughly 5%) and customs fees (that is, the charges that whoever clears the package through customs will bill you).
The 25% mentioned by @heavenwelkin is rather conservative.
I’d say you can safely go with 27-28% of the value of the item, shipping costs included.
actar80
·3 years agoNowadays buying from the UK or outside the EU has become a real rip-off!!
actar80
·3 years agoCorrection: "became..."
tommylee975
OP3 years agoThank you for the response, I’m just wondering why import charges were promptly calculated by eBay for another simulated purchase from the UK (at the moment of adding it to the cart I saw the item price + shipping costs + import fees) and yet for the purchase in question, when I added it to the cart, it did not charge me import costs. So is it a matter of whether or not the seller is enrolled in international shipping programs? In any case, buying from the UK is a real rip-off. Regards
sika700
·3 years agoExactly, not all sellers subscribe or can subscribe to the program offered by ebay, that’s the reason for the difference in costs applied in different listings.
Of course it’s a rip-off, the European community introduced these charges specifically to discourage imports.
Best regards.
heavenwelkin
·3 years agoGood morning tommylee975
For purchases over 150 euros, eBay no longer collects the costs related to import fees.
These costs will have to be paid when your order is delivered.
The courier and/or mail carrier will handle the collection directly at the time of delivery of the package.
Roughly calculate 25% of 400 pounds.
Kind regards.
tommylee975
OP3 years agoThank you very much.